V8 ford capri project

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Re: V8 ford capri project

Post by zahistorics » Thu 20 Oct 2011, 21:41

Johann65 wrote:Take a look at the difference between the Perana and Your 2000Gt with regard to the strengthening of the front chassis and body. My mate Piet is also busy fitting a V8 to a Capri. Good luck with the project. Go follow Peranaman's postings.
The 'strengthening required' is a bit of a myth: Team Gunston Z181 and A2 are both 4 cyl shells - still going strong 40 racing year later. Z181 has suffered some fatigue cracking in the firewall. Peranaman's car is also a 4 cyl shell.

Production Peranas were same as 3000 XL with the addition of the strut top stenthening. The strut top stenthening plates are a standard Ford part fitted in some markets. I have a German Cologne built Mk1 1600 shell that has the exact same plates as a Perana.

A Perana's front cross member is arguably less strong the than the standard one. Engine cross member is the same, just steering rack mountings moved.

If it was me I would just get the strut top strengthening plates and be done with it.

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Re: V8 ford capri project

Post by IbanezRG » Thu 20 Oct 2011, 21:51

zahistorics wrote:
Johann65 wrote:Take a look at the difference between the Perana and Your 2000Gt with regard to the strengthening of the front chassis and body. My mate Piet is also busy fitting a V8 to a Capri. Good luck with the project. Go follow Peranaman's postings.
The 'strengthening required' is a bit of a myth: Team Gunston Z181 and A2 are both 4 cyl shells - still going strong 40 racing year later. Z181 has suffered some fatigue cracking in the firewall. Peranaman's car is also a 4 cyl shell.

Production Peranas were same as 3000 XL with the addition of the strut top stenthening. The strut top stenthening plates are a standard Ford part fitted in some markets. I have a German Cologne built Mk1 1600 shell that has the exact same plates as a Perana.

A Perana's front cross member is arguably less strong the than the standard one. Engine cross member is the same, just steering rack mountings moved.

If it was me I would just get the strut top strengthening plates and be done with it.
think thats what i am gonna do.thanks for the advice. :D

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Re: V8 ford capri project

Post by zahistorics » Thu 20 Oct 2011, 21:55

427TNT wrote:Nice upgrade there Anton,but not in everybody's budget to fork out +-R15K-20K to do that upgrade .......I do have a wishlist going...... :mrgreen:
I'm working on a serious but cheap upgrade. Brake parts: looks like I can get big vented disks and 4 pot calipers for less than £100 per side. There will be brackets, machining, pads and pipes on top of that, but my target is to get (well) below £200 per side.

Busy with a spec for 5 stud 15", but if anyone cares to measure the disk that will fit inside the ID of 13" rims I will see what I can come up with for 4 stud 13"

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Re: V8 ford capri project

Post by paulusvrotius1 » Thu 20 Oct 2011, 23:37

Engine cross member is the same, just steering rack mountings moved.
The Perana engine crossmember is significantly modified from the origional and because of cloning I don't won't elaborate here but I have built one for a friend who got ripped off on a Perana purchase using my own as a pattern.
I will PM you pics for your records if you want John.

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Re: V8 ford capri project

Post by zahistorics » Fri 21 Oct 2011, 01:51

Paul,

I know (and should have said) that the mountings are quite different. What I mean is that strength-wise there is no significant difference. It is after all a modified 3 litre item.

Yes, please PM me pics - I can never have enough.

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Re: V8 ford capri project

Post by 427TNT » Fri 21 Oct 2011, 07:11

zahistorics wrote:
427TNT wrote:Busy with a spec for 5 stud 15", but if anyone cares to measure the disk that will fit inside the ID of 13" rims I will see what I can come up with for 4 stud 13"
Disk measure=245-247mm.Hope this helps.
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Re: V8 ford capri project

Post by IbanezRG » Sun 30 Oct 2011, 12:17

some new photos.. didn't get to much done yet since time is an issue but still one week of work then I'm going on 3 weeks leave, will get a lot done then. at the moment I'm still busy with bodywork. sold the v6 to a friend, so took that out today.

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as you can see here i've got the same damage as lots of the other capri guys.. bonnet opening while driving so had to cut out the top straiten the hinge and weld it shut again.. my bonnet is also badly damaged so will be replacing that.
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Re: V8 ford capri project

Post by FPT » Sun 30 Oct 2011, 18:06

Good luck with the project> Alot of work in there, should have kept it V6 though. :oops:
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Re: V8 ford capri project

Post by paulusvrotius1 » Sun 30 Oct 2011, 23:11

Hi Denis, some good progress there.

While your on the bodywork you are going to need to do a mod to your front crossmember to clear the V8 pulley.
Have a look at my unfinished thread in 'Restoration' titled 'Capri Perana gets a tarting up' for pics of mine.
I also modded my slam panel but that depends on the size of radiator you are going to use. It might be worth getting a radiator now so you don't have to return to it later.

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Re: V8 ford capri project

Post by IbanezRG » Wed 16 Nov 2011, 14:30

thanks for the advice there paul.

now i've decided that i'll try to transplant the hump on my messed up V6 bonnet to a flat bonnet. now i fixed all the dents in the hump today. but it seems like the is a part missing on my bonnet :roll: .. i haven't seen this on other V6 bonnets why is that ?
here is a pic of what i'm talking about

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