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Waterhond
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What should I build ?

Post by Waterhond » Thu 05 Nov 2015, 20:04

How much difference in cost would there be between re-building a 350 Chevy small block, 351 Ford Windsor and 351 Cleveland engine ?

And in the case of stroking those engines. For instance to 408 ci ?

Pieter.

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Re: What should I build ?

Post by brennan67 » Thu 05 Nov 2015, 22:21

my 5c,
put a Ford in a Ford, a chevy in Chevy.

why worry about the cost, do it right.

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Re: What should I build ?

Post by Bearhawke » Fri 06 Nov 2015, 05:22

Waterhond wrote:How much difference in cost would there be between re-building a 350 Chevy small block, 351 Ford Windsor and 351 Cleveland engine ?

And in the case of stroking those engines. For instance to 408 ci ?

Pieter.
Let me chime in here. In the USA or Canada; doing up a SB Chevy is the cheapest route, in RSA since Ford V8's seem to be quite common, that may be the best way to go in that country.
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Re: What should I build ?

Post by Burnthosetyres » Fri 06 Nov 2015, 06:44

Start with.... for what car.... for what purpose and why is your budget? With Rand / Dollar it's not cheap at the moment.
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Re: What should I build ?

Post by jlebenon » Fri 06 Nov 2015, 12:52

They're all great choices , those Ford strokers are big power makers ... A cleveland stroker sounds like fun but would be the most expensive I'd say ...
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Re: What should I build ?

Post by Waterhond » Fri 06 Nov 2015, 18:23

Hi,

Thanks for the opinions.

However, my question has nothing to do with what goes where. I am not planning to put anything into anything.

I would like to build an engine for the fun of it and, since I am a Chevy fan I'm constantly looking for Chevy parts.

But, last night I started thinking.

Since I already have a Cleveland block and crank, shouldn't I just build that, instead of having to buy a Chevy engine, and/or parts, which I don't have..

But I also know that a Cleveland is expensive to build, which made me also just wonder about a Windsor.

I browsed a little on Summit, and noticed that a 408 ci stroker kit for a Cleveland could actually be cheaper than one for a Chevy sbc. But most other parts are more expensive, like cams and stuff..

So, the reason I am asking this question on the forum, is to get an idea of what you guys have experienced.

Pieter.

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Re: What should I build ?

Post by IndianaJones » Fri 06 Nov 2015, 18:57

Does not state the exact price difference, but might be of interest...
viewtopic.php?f=42&t=14976

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Re: What should I build ?

Post by hanov0 » Sat 07 Nov 2015, 08:15

Stroke the cleveland using Chevy parts, best of both. :o
Ford pistons, Chevy rods and machined crank, will get you a 377 with Std bore or 383 with oversize.
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Re: What should I build ?

Post by Waterhond » Sat 07 Nov 2015, 09:51

Ford pistons, Chevy rods and machined crank, will get you a 377 with Std bore or 383 with oversize
Thanks ! I'll certainly look into it.

Would that be a 6 inch Chevy rod, as the Cleveland's is already longer than 5.7 ?

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Re: What should I build ?

Post by hanov0 » Sat 07 Nov 2015, 11:56

This is the old recipe.

377 (3.7" stroke, 0.030" over):
3.7" offset ground Cleveland crank with 6" rod (Olds or 2.1" journal Chevy)
Offset grind 351C crank to SBC journal, widen crank journal or narrow rods
Assuming you can find a good crank grinder
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