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Rambler

Post by moparmad » Tue 17 Nov 2015, 12:15

Need some help. I had a look at a 60something AMC Rambler for another possible project. I don't know anything about these so any help will be appreciated. There is no gearbox so I wonder how scares are parts? This seems like chev motor but think there will be some differences if any one can clarify please? I think its a 3.8L so that makes me think GM built maybe same as the chevy 6cylinder....
Here are some pics, let me know what you think if its worth the time?

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Re: Rambler

Post by moparmad » Tue 17 Nov 2015, 12:16

here are the picks
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Re: Rambler

Post by Gavin RS » Tue 17 Nov 2015, 14:27

Looks like a Rambler Rogue, 232 ci is a 3.8ltr the 4.1 was a Chevy motor.
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Re: Rambler

Post by moparmad » Tue 17 Nov 2015, 15:27

Thanks, so this is a AMC built motor? do you know perhaps what gearbox it used or can fit? I don't want another project that stands around waiting for parts due to scares and rare parts used. Googled it a bit and seems like its a 68 model.

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Re: Rambler

Post by IndianaJones » Tue 17 Nov 2015, 18:25

The 232 is an AMC engine, was also used in Jeeps.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMC_straight-6_engine

The 232 in the Rambler was connected to a Borg-Warner 3-speed automatic(also used in various Jeeps). The engine bellhousing pattern changed in 1972, when AMC started using Chrysler transmissions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borg-Warn ... ansmission
You might be able to fit a GM TH350 or TH400 with an adaptor plate, as there were some AMC's that made use of that transmission.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_A ... plications

Not that an AMC is a Mopar, but I always thought the cool swap to do in a Rambler, was to fit a Chrysler 5.2L/318ci V8 and 4-speed auto out of a later model Jeep Grand Cherokee, sort of keeping it in the family.

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Re: Rambler

Post by moparmad » Wed 18 Nov 2015, 06:54

Thanks for that Indiana, this is looking more and more like a possibility. Love the mopar idea! I wonder if a BB will fit 8)

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Re: Rambler

Post by Bearhawke » Wed 18 Nov 2015, 23:42

moparmad wrote:Thanks, so this is a AMC built motor? do you know perhaps what gearbox it used or can fit? I don't want another project that stands around waiting for parts due to scares and rare parts used. Googled it a bit and seems like its a 68 model.
Having owned a 1967 Rambler American (Rogue) with that same 232 and Borg Warner auto tranny; I found out it was cheaper to swap in a ca. 1972 232 with its matching TorqueCommand 904 which was sourced from Chrysler rather than having the original BW box rebuilt. The problem is the bellhousing bolt pattern and flex plate/crank snout are different between the two motors.

Being in RSA; maybe a 4.0L Six out of a 1990's+ Jeep with its matching tranny and electronics/fuel injection would be a feasible swap?
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Re: Rambler

Post by moparmad » Mon 23 Nov 2015, 12:07

Seems the best way will be to scrap the drive train entirely and go with a chev 4.1 and tranny or see what v8 will go in and match the tranny to that. I have no idea in what shape the 6 is in so it might be best to get replacement everything.

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Re: Rambler

Post by IndianaJones » Mon 23 Nov 2015, 18:13

http://www.rocket88.co.za/used-v8-engines/chrysler/

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Re: Rambler

Post by Bearhawke » Tue 24 Nov 2015, 02:58

moparmad wrote:Seems the best way will be to scrap the drive train entirely and go with a chev 4.1 and tranny or see what v8 will go in and match the tranny to that. I have no idea in what shape the 6 is in so it might be best to get replacement everything.
That I can understand because unlike here in the USA; 232-258 Sixes apparently are quite rare. The Chevy Six might be a good idea because the 1970's RSA Hornets did run the 250 so; fitting one to a 1969 down American/Rogue should be almost 100% plug n play.
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